Tommy Allsup with his Grammy
It's a pleasure to meet you Tommy. You have played with both
Bob Wills and Buddy Holly and I'd be interested to know a
little more about your time with these two legendary and great
artistes.
"Yeh. When I got out of high school I got to
work with Johnny Lee Wills band in Tulsa, Oklahoma; that's
Bob Wills brother. I was there a couple of years and then
went back to Oklahoma and had a nightclub there...had a band
at the club. Then about 1958 I went to Clovis, New Mexico
to play on some records for a trio out of Portallas New Mexico
at Norman Petty's studio. That was where I met Buddy. I went
out for one day and Norman asked me if I would hang around
to do some more sessions. He had people lined up and didn't
have a guitar player. So I said I'd stay for a few days, it
was work.
One day Buddy came in to record. He had heard
some stuff that I had done with the Bowman Brothers and asked
me if I'd like to play on his records and I said yes. So a
couple of nights later we recorded 'Its So Easy', 'Heart Beat'
and some of those other songs I did with him. They released
'Its So Easy' as his next record and it had a guitar solo
on it. He said you will have to go on the road with me man,
because I can't play that solo on the song.
I went on the road with him on his first tour,
which was in the summer of 1958, and we had another tour later
on that year in the fall, which was a big package tour. Then
his next tour was the Winter Dance Party, which was after
Jerry Allison and Joe B (Mauldin) had left the group. He had
hired Waylon to play bass and I had brought in a drummer from
Oddessa; his name was Carl Bunch. We worked until the
plane crashed.
Waylon had given up his seat to the Big Bopper
and I flipped a coin, to see who went; Ritchie or me. Ritchie
won the coin toss and he flew in my place and that was about
it."
Waylon suffered a kind of guilt over the fact
that Big Bopper had died in what should have been his place.
Did you also suffer any such pain.
"No, not really."
Tell me how you came to work with Bob Wills.
"OK. Right after that...I had met Bob, when
he had worked some jobs with us, when I was with Johnny Lee.
He had come around for a while and I had known Bob for several
years. I went to Liberty Records in 1960 to work for Snuff
Garrett and they had just started a country & western department.
Joe Alison had done a couple of albums with
Bob and I took over his job as country P&R person . Willie
Nelson was one of ours and Little Joe Carson. I re-signed
Bob Wills and did some more shows with Bob. We stayed friends,
we recorded again some stuff and a couple or three years later
he did some radio shows down at Fort Worth. So I put together
a double album there of those radio shows, then in December
1973 he did For The Last Time album. That was when he was
in the wheelchair, kinda directing the band...calling the
shots. He had a bad stroke, actually on the first day of recording
and he never really recovered."
Around 5 years ago, Sonny Curtis came over to
the UK with the Crickets on a tour as support for Nanci Griffith.
We you on that tour?
"No! I recorded with the Crickets after I went
to California in 60. They recorded on Liberty and recorded
some stuff with Bobby V, then recorded some singles on their
own. I played on those, but never go out on the road with
them. They've had a number of different guitar players."
So what are you doing these days Tommy?
"Leon Rausch and I have the rights to the name
Bob Wills Texas Playboys and I do a lot of dates with that.
Then I live on a guest ranch outside Snider (Texas) and I
perform out there at the weekend. When I'm not on the road
I do a single act. I have a lot of CDs and I play along to
music tracks. I kinda like doing that, which is good practice
and I don't have to travel far from my house."
Looking at your CDs on sale, you have a gospel
album, a pop album, a Buddy Holly style album.
"Yes! I have several CDs for sale, I have a
country CD and country gospel guitar album. I've just finished
another country orientated instrumental album, I'll probably
have it out in 4-5 months. We've done a live album...The Texas
Playboys, which we recorded a year ago down in Rockwell Texas.
Other than that we stay pretty busy."
Are we likely to see you coming over to the
UK.
"Yeh, we would love to come over, if somebody
will brings us over."
We have several big festivals going off over
there.
"Yeh, we would love to do a festival over there.
If you could hook us up with somebody we would be glad to
do it."
Well thanks very much for your time.
In the 1999 - 42nd Annual Grammy Awards Tommy
was a precipitant for Best Country Instrumental Performance
on Bob's Breakdowns along with Asleep At The Wheel (Ray Benson,
Chris Booher, Cindy Cashdollar, David Miller, Jason Roberts,
David Sanger & Michael Francis), Floyd Domino, Larry Franklin,
Vince Gill & Steve Wariner.
If there's anyone out there with the 'vision'
to explore this incredible music, it would be the gold at
the end of a musical rainbow!
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